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#69579 - 19-10-2003 20:34 Katalonian Ralli
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Avataanpas samantien jo ketju Katalonian rallin etukäteishehkutusta ja seurantaa varten!
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#69580 - 19-10-2003 20:36 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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pois veikkaus täältä
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#69581 - 19-10-2003 21:33 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Toivottavasti kaikki pätkät saadaan ajetuksi, vaikka Sainz onkin MM-pistejohdossa Porukka reitin varrella nimittäin voi ottaa siitä ilon irti ja ängetä entistäkin suuremmalla joukolla katsomaan kilpailun kulkua! FIA:n nykyisen turvallisuuspolitiikan mukaan pätkä perutaan, jos yleisö on huomattavasti autoja korkeamman penkan päällä katsomassa, kuten kävi Argentiinassa Sellaiseen katselupaikkaan autot nousisivat ulosajon sattuessa äärettömän epätodennäköisesti.
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#69582 - 19-10-2003 21:35 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Ja autot on parkkeerattu muualle kuin pikataipaleelle tien reunaan. Carlosilla on tuosta seikasta huonoja muistoja juuri Kataloniassa.
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#69583 - 19-10-2003 21:37 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Juuri viime kerralta. Keskeytyksen jälkeen hän jäikin paikalle antamaan tiukkaan sävyyn ohjeita autojen sijoittelusta maanmiehilleen.
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#69584 - 20-10-2003 10:18 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Katalonia ei asvalttirallina ole koskaan ollut Grönholmin mieleen.
-Merkkipisteistä sinne lähdetään tappelemaan. Tämänvuotiselta reitiltä on onneksi pudotettu minulle epämieluisimpia erikoiskokeita.
Ilmeisesti rallista on poistettu ne "kärrypolut", joita ajettiin toisena päivänä Barcelonan eteläpuolella. Grönholmhan valitteli Veikkaajassa muutama viikko sitten, että Kataloniassa leikataan rajusti mutkia, jonka vuoksi tielle tulee paljon soraa ja hankaloittaa näin ajamista.

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#69585 - 20-10-2003 16:58 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Jo perinteisesti tämäkin tänne...


39th Rallye Catalunya
The schedule and past winners [20/10/03 - 12:20]


The 13th round of the 2003 World Rally Championship will take place in Spain from 23-26 October. The event is presented on asphalt roads and is made up of 22 stages (11 distinctive stages), covering 381,18 km of timed distance.

The Rallye Catalunya is part of :

2003 FIA Drivers' World Rally Championship (13/14)
2003 FIA Constructors' World Rally Championship (13/14)
2003 FIA Junior Super 1600 World Championship (6/7)


RALLY SCHEDULE

Tuesday 21 October
Start of reconnaissance


Wednesday 22 October
End of reconnaissance
18h00 : Technical and administrative verifications (Lloret de Mar )


Thursday 23 October
08h00-12h00 : Shakedown
19h30 : Ceremonial start (Lloret de Mar)


Friday 24 October
06h45 : Start of Leg 1 at Lloret de Mar
8 stages (146,36 km)
21h03 : End of Leg 1 at Lloret de Mar


Saturday 25 October
07h00 : Start of Leg 2 at Lloret de Mar
8 stages (131,26 km)
21h03 : End of Leg 2 at Lloret de Mar




Sunday 26 October
05h30 : Start of Leg 3 at Lloret de Mar
6 stages (103,56 km)
15h09 : Event finish at Lloret de Mar
15h15 : Podium ceremony


SPECIAL STAGES AND SERVICE AREAS


Friday 24 October

06h45 : Start of Leg 1 at Lloret de Mar

07h55 : Service area A at Vic (20')

08h48 : SS 1 LA TRONA 1 (13,17 Km)
09h21 : SS 2 ALPENS-LES LLOSSES 1 (21,80 Km)

Refueling zone

10h29 : SS 3 LA POBLA DE LILLET 1 (22,55 Km)

12h14 : Grouping area at Vic (15')

12h29 : Service area B at Vic (20')

13h12 : SS 4 SANT JULIA 1 (26,27 Km)
14h05 : SS 5 TARADELL 1 (5,05 Km)

14h29 : Grouping area at Vic (10')

14h39 : Service area C at Vic (20')

15h32 : SS 6 LA TRONA 2 (13,17 Km)
16h05 : SS 7 ALPENS-LES LLOSSES 2 (21,80 Km)

Refueling zone

17h13 : SS 8 LA POBLA DE LILLET 2 (22,55 Km)

18h58 : Service area D at Vic (45')


Saturday 25 October

07h00 : Start of Leg 2 at Lloret de Mar

08h10 : Service area E at Vic (20')

08h53 : SS 9 OLOST 1 (23,08 Km)
09h41 : SS 10 LLUCA 1 (14,04 km)
10h09 : SS 11 SAN BOI DE LLUCANES 1 (12,85 km)

10h44 : Grouping area at Vic (15')

10h59 : Service area F at Vic (20')

11h42 : SS 12 SANT JULIA 2 (26,27 Km)
12h35 : SS 13 TARADELL 2 (5,05 Km)

12h59 : Grouping area at Vic (30')

13h29 : Service area G at Vic (20')

14h12 : SS 14 OLOST 2 (23,08 Km)
15h00 : SS 15 LLUCA 2 (14,04 km)
15h28 : SS 16 SAN BOI DE LLUCANES 2 (12,85 km)

16h03 : Service area H at Vic (45')

Sunday 26 October

05h30 : Start of Leg 3 at Lloret de Mar

06h40 : Service area I at Vic (20')

07h43 : SS 17 SAN BARTOMEU DEL GRAU 1 (11,55 km)
08h19 : SS 18 LA ROCA 1 (5,05 km)
08h47 : SS 19 VILADRAU 1 (35,18 km)

09h37 : Grouping area at Vic (30')

10h07 : Service area J at Vic (20')

11h10 : SS 20 SAN BARTOMEU DEL GRAU 2 (11,55 km)
11h46 : SS 21 LA ROCA 2 (5,05 km)
12h14 : SS 22 VILADRAU 2 (35,18 km)

13h04 : Service area K at Vic (20')

15h09 : Event finish and podium ceremony


PAST WINNERS

2002 : Panizzi-Panizzi Peugeot
2001 : Auriol-Giraudet Peugeot
2000 : McRae-Grist Ford
1999 : Bugalski-Chiaroni Citroën
1998 : Auriol-Giraudet Toyota
1997 : Makinen-Harjanne Mitsubishi
1996 : McRae-Ringer Subaru
1995 : Sainz-Moya Subaru
1994 : Bertone-Chiapponi Toyota
1993 : Delecour-Grataloup Ford
1992 : Sainz-Moya Toyota
1991 : Schwarz-Hertz Toyota
199O : Cerrato-Cerri Lancia
1989 : Loubet-Andri, Lancia
1988 : Saby-Fauchille Lancia
1987 : Cerrato-Cerri Lancia
1986 : Tabaton-Tedeschini Lancia
1985 : Tabaton-Tedeschini Lancia
1984 : Servia-Sabater Opel
1983 : Vudafieri-Siviero Lancia
1982 : Zanini-Sabater Talbot
1981 : Ortiz-Barreras R5 Turbo
198O : Zanini-Sabater Porsche
1979 : B.Fernandez-Sala Fiat 131
1978 : Zanini-Petisco Fiat 131
1977 : Zanini-Petisco Seat
1976 : de Bragation-de Barbeito Lancia
1975 : Zanini-Martinez Seat
1974 : Etchebers-Etchebers Porsche
1973 : Canellas-Ferrater Seat

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#69586 - 20-10-2003 17:02 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Niin, ja nyt päästään ajamaan, sanoisinko tynkärallien, (San Remossa 14 pätkää ja Korsikallakin vain 16) jälkeen ihan normaalipituista rallia, eli 22 EK:ta on nyt edessä

Silloin ennen oli yhdessä rallissa 30-50 pikataivalta...
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#69587 - 21-10-2003 21:00 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Sainz could win the championship at home
Catalunya : Team by team analysis [21/10/03 - 00:42]


Loeb will try to take his revenge in Spain

There were many unexpected events in the last World Rally Championship event in Corsica. Many drivers are still in the battle for the title, with only two rallies to go until the end of the season.

Citroën Sport
Sebastien Loeb really wanted a good result at the Tour de Corse. The Frenchman was the favourite to win and with a victory the Citroën driver would have taken the lead in the championship. But Loeb went off the road in the eighth stage and lost the opportunity to score points. Sebastien Loeb will need to finish in front of Sainz, Solberg and Burns to keep his title hopes alive. Sebastien has taken part three times to the Catalunya with moderate success. The Frenchman retired in 1999 and 2002 and finished in 15th position at the wheel of a Saxo in 2001. Nevertheless, Sebastien is considered the fastest Citroën driver on asphalt and will have to confirm his status by finishing in front of his teammates.




Carlos Sainz won his home race in 1992 and 1995 and retired last year after going off the road. Unlike his rivals, Sainz doesn't have to win the event; he only needs to stay in front of his three opponents. Carlos also knows that if he wins the rally and his rivals don't finish in the points, he will clinch the title at Lloret de Mar.

Unlike his teammates, Colin McRae isn't fighting for the championship. However, the Scotsman can help his team to conquer the Constructors' Championship. Colin won twice in Spain: 1996 and 2000.

Peugeot Sport
Peugeot Sport is going through a difficult period. While the Xsara and the Focus significantly improved in the last few races, the 206 seems to stay at the same level. Peugeot were expecting a lot from Gilles Panizzi for the last two asphalt events but the Frenchman had a lot of problems to find a proper set- up for his 206. Gilles was never able to find a sufficient rhythm to battle for the lead. The Peugeot driver will try to do better at the Catalunya but it will not be easy.

Last year Richard Burns finished second at the Catalunya, behind his teammate Panizzi. However this year the 206 is not as competitive and Burns will have some trouble to repeat such a result. His consistency helped him to stay near the top in the points standings but now Richard will be aiming to finish on the podium to keep his championship hopes alive.

After having a long string of retirements, Marcus Gronholm was finally able to reach the finish at the Tour de Corse. Even if Marcus has only a marginally small chance of winning the title, he can still help Peugeot in the battle against Citroën for the Constructors' Championship. Fourth in 2002, Marcus has never finished on the podium in Spain.

Subaru World Rally Team
Subaru is no longer in the running for the Constructors' Championship but the team can still win the Drivers' Championship with Petter Solberg.

The Impreza was not very competitive at the Sanremo but the situation was much better at the Tour de Corse under rainy conditions. The team will obviously hope that rain is part of the Spanish event as well.

Petter Solberg finished in fifth position last year at the Catalunya. The Norwegian knows that the weather will play a major role in his ability to win the race.

Tommi Makinen will try to score as many points as possible in Spain. The Finn won the event in 1997 but did not finish the race last year.

Märtin will be aiming to win

Ford Rallye Sport
By making a mistake in the eighth stage of the Tour de Corse, Markko Martin blew away his last chance of winning the championship. Despite that, the Estonian is still hungry for victories and will try to succeed in Spain. Markko finished eighth last year but with the much improved Focus, he can be the most serious challenger of the Citroën drivers.

Markko Martin is not the only driver to be competitive at Ford. Francois Duval finished on the podium in Corsica and will want to repeat his performance in Spain. The Belgian took part in the Catalunya two times but never at the wheel of a WRC car (he drove a Puma).

Ford will have a third car for Mikko Hirvonen once again. The Finn will drive his usual 2002 Focus for his first participation in the Spanish event. Mikko's target will be to reach the finish, just like he did last week in Corsica.

Skoda Motorsport
Didier Auriol had a frustrating weekend in Corsica. The Frenchman was not able to move past the start of the first stage, leaving all the development work of the Fabia to his teammate Toni Gardemeister.

Auriol won twice in Catalunya and Gardemeister retired last year because of an oil pressure problem on his car. The two drivers will work hard to help the team make another step forward in the development of the Fabia.

Alkuun
#69588 - 22-10-2003 14:03 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Också på finska...

Espanjan MM-rallin aikataulu (Suomen aikaa)

Perjantai 24.10.2003


9:48 Ek 1 La Trona 1 13.17 km
10:21 Ek 2 Alpens 1 21.80 km
11:29 Ek 3 La Pobla de Lillet 1 22.55 km

13:29 Huolto

14:12 Ek 4 Sant Julia 1 26.27 km
15:05 Ek 5 Taradell 1 5.05 km

15:39 Huolto

16:32 Ek 6 La Trona 2 13.17 km
17:05 Ek 7 Alpens 2 21.80 km
18:13 Ek 8 La Pobla de Lillet 2 22.55 km


Lauantai 25.10.2003

9:53 Ek 9 Olost 1 23.08 km
10:41 Ek 10 Lluca 1 14.04 km
11:09 Ek 11 Sant Boi de Llucanes 12.85 km

11:59 Huolto

12:42 Ek 12 Sant Julia 2 26.27 km
13:35 Ek 13 Taradell 2 5.05 km

14:29 Huolto

15:12 Ek 14 Olost 2 23.08 km
16:00 Ek 15 Lluca 2 14.04 km
16:28 Ek 16 Sant Boi de Llucanes 12.85 km


Sunnuntai 26.10.2003

8:42 Ek 17 Sant Bartomeu del Gr 11.55 km
9:19 Ek 18 La Roca 1 6.05 km
9:47 Ek 19 Viladrau 1 35.18 km

11:07 Huolto

12:10 Ek 20 Sant Bartomeu del Gr 11.55 km
12:46 Ek 21 La Roca 2 5.05 km
13:14 Ek 22 Viladrau 2 35.18 km


edit: selkiyttämistoimenpiteitä
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#69589 - 23-10-2003 14:33 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Kyllä Kataloniaakin voidaan sanoa tynkäralliksi, sillä osa erikoiskokeista ajetaan neljään kertaan (kaksi kertaa molempiin suuntiin). Katalonian reittiä on uusittu rajusti ja se ajetaan erittäin suppealla alueella. Osa kuljettajista sanoo, että tiet ovat jopa liian nopeita.
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#69590 - 23-10-2003 15:22 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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No, nykyautoilla kovempaa ajaminen on turvallisempaa, kun esimerkiksi B-ryhmäläisillä. Että vaikka keskinopeudet ovatkin jollain pätkällä vaikka 130 km/h, niin mikään ongelma näille nykypäivän tietokoneohjatuille "kuskin lepotiloille" se ei ole.
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#69591 - 23-10-2003 15:32 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Shakedown round up: Fords to the fore
Spain · Ford · Mikko Hirvonen · 23/10/2003 11:37:09



The Estonian has a stiff neck and is wearing a small neck brace - he has also had extra padding added to his seat following his high-speed off in France. But so far, that has not affected his performance in Spain, completing the 3.4km stage in 2m17.4s.

Martin was on a new compound of Michelin tyre – which he used briefly in Corsica last week. Ford says it might use the new compound at some point over the weekend.

"I would prefer to have had a full day's testing to evaluate them properly," he said. "But there is definitely something there."

Marcus Gronholm set an identical time to Martin, with Ford youngster Mikko Hirvonen third quickest.

Hirvonen remains uncertain about where his future lies in the championship and admits he might not contest all 16 rounds next season. But the Finn, who set his first fastest stage time in Corsica last week, would have done his prospects no harm whatsoever with his shakedown time.

Petter Solberg was fourth quickest followed by the third Focus of Francois Duval. The Belgian equalled his best ever WRC result last week, finishing third, but is not expecting to scale the same heights in Spain.

"This will be trickier than Corsica," said Duval. "But the good thing is there are a lot of new stages which will level the playing field a little. I hope to take advantage in the new stages."

Over at Skoda, Didier Auriol was celebrating taking the start of his 150th WRC rally, but the former world champion's team mate Toni Gardemeister was in no mood join in on the fun. The rear anti-roll bar in his Fabia broke with alarming regularity in France – and broke again during shakedown today.

"If it happens on shakedown, for sure it is going to happen on the rally," he grumbled.

edit: tuli liitettyä kaksi kertaa samaan viestiin
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#69592 - 24-10-2003 10:05 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Ensimmäisellä ek:lla Carlos ja Riku jäivät Petterille ja Sebastienille.
Onkohan tämä trendi? Jos on, tullee heille kiirus Walesin teillä.

Alkuun
#69593 - 24-10-2003 11:00 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Carlos on nyt kahden pätkän jälkeen noussut kakkospaikalle, hyvä niin! Mutta mikäs Vihreäsaarta vaivaa? Mäkinen puolestaan yllättävän hyvin mukana pelissä
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#69594 - 24-10-2003 11:14 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Bosse otti väärät renkaat autoonsa...ja matkanteko oli yhtä sutimista.
Mutta eiköhän tilanne tuosta veilä tasoitu. Petteriltä meni rengas ek 2:lla...johtaisi muuten kisaa.

Alkuun
#69595 - 24-10-2003 11:17 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Eikö Petteri käytä muussirenkaita? Jos Solberg pitää noin kovaa kyytiä, niin siinä tapauksessa siellä mahtaa sataa.
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#69596 - 24-10-2003 17:31 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Tulospalvelu tökkii ja matoja verkko-operaattoreilla, mutta kuitenkin näyttäisi siltä, että Riku on putoamassa vauhdista ek:lla seitsemän.
Alkuun
#69597 - 24-10-2003 17:35 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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ei näytä wrc.com toimivan ainakaan minun koneellani... Oletan, että kärkikolmikko on edelleen Loeb, Sainz, Märtin. Jos näin on, niin veikkaukseni ja Sainzinkin osalta tilanne näyttää mukavalle
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#69598 - 24-10-2003 17:44 Re: Katalonian Ralli
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Kokeile http://rally.racing-live.com
Tuntuis pelittävän suht mukavasti.


Kirjoitusvirhe paholainen....

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